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60 Minutes' Steve Kroft Reports On Drug Lobbyists' Role in Passing Bill That Keeps Drug Prices High


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NEW YORK, April 1, 2007
glimpse behind the scenes of Congress. Jones calls the lobbyist-induced frenzy to pass the Medicare prescription drug bill in the U.S. House of Representatives two years ago the “ugliest night” he has ever seen in politics.  Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.), left, and Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.) offer a rare glimpse behind the scenes of Congress. Jones calls the lobbyist-induced frenzy to pass the Medicare prescription drug bill in the U.S. House of Representatives two years ago the "ugliest night" he has ever seen in politics. (CBS)

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"I've been in politics for 22 years, and it was the ugliest night I have ever seen in 22 years."

Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C.


(CBS) If you have ever wondered why the cost of prescription drugs in the United States are the highest in the world or why it's illegal to import cheaper drugs from Canada or Mexico, you need look no further than the pharmaceutical lobby and its influence in Washington, D.C.

According to a new report by the Center for Public Integrity, congressmen are outnumbered two to one by lobbyists for an industry that spends roughly a $100 million a year in campaign contributions and lobbying expenses to protect its profits.

One reason those profits have exceeded Wall Street expectations is the Medicare prescription drug bill. It was passed three-and-a-half years ago, but as 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft reports, its effects are still reverberating through the halls of Congress, providing a window into how the lobby works.



The unorthodox roll call on one of the most expensive bills ever placed before the House of Representatives began in the middle of the night, long after most people in Washington had switched off C-SPAN and gone to sleep.

The only witnesses were congressional staffers, hundreds of lobbyists, and U.S. Representatives like Dan Burton, R-Ind., and Walter Jones, R-N.C.

"The pharmaceutical lobbyists wrote the bill," says Jones. "The bill was over 1,000 pages. And it got to the members of the House that morning, and we voted for it at about 3 a.m. in the morning."

Why did the vote finally take place at 3 a.m.?

"Well, I think a lot of the shenanigans that were going on that night, they didn't want on national television in primetime," according to Burton.

"I've been in politics for 22 years," says Jones, "and it was the ugliest night I have ever seen in 22 years."

The legislation was the cornerstone of Republican's domestic agenda and would extend limited prescription drugs coverage under Medicare to 41 million Americans, including 13 million who had never been covered before.

At an estimated cost of just under $400 billion over 10 years, it was the largest entitlement program in more than 40 years, and the debate broke down along party lines.

But when it came time cast ballots, the Republican leadership discovered that a number of key Republican congressmen had defected and joined the Democrats, arguing that the bill was too expensive and a sellout to the drug companies. Burton and Jones were among them.

"They're suppose to have 15 minutes to leave the voting machines open and it was open for almost three hours," Burton explains. "The votes were there to defeat the bill for two hours and 45 minutes and we had leaders going around and gathering around individuals, trying to twist their arms to get them to change their votes."

Jones says the arm-twisting was horrible.

"We had a good friend from Michigan, Nick Smith, and they threatened to work against his son who wanted to run for his seat when he retired," he recalls. "I saw a woman, a member of the House, a lady, crying when they came around her, trying to get her to change her votes. It was —it was ugly."

When the prescription drug bill finally passed shortly before dawn, in the longest roll call in the history of the House of Representatives, much of the credit went to former Congressman Billy Tauzin, R-La., who steered it through the house.

"It's just a messy process," Tauzin says. "I mean, the old adage about if you like sausage or laws, you should not watch either one of them being made is true. It's a messy process."

Tauzin says that the voting machines were open for three hours "because the vote wasn't finished."

As for arms being twisted? "People were being talked to," he says.

And of Walter Jones' comment that it was the "ugliest night" he had "ever seen in politics in 22 years?"

"Well, he's a young member," counters Tauzin with a laugh. "Had he been around for 25 years, he'd have seen some uglier nights."


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NYCViewer, Right wing fascist neo con distortion to the nauseating up yours american citizen degree. Did you FAIL to notice Billy boy is headed off to his new lobbying career of 2 million dollars a year for being mob puddy boi? Yeah, alot to do with research and development and appeasing shareholders. That record has been played so much the scratches make it unworthy of another run on the turn table.

The research an innovation often comes out of the public university system and underpaid scientists. Your comments are the absolute lies to the american people. 1) we must shut up and take the abuse because because business creates jobs 2) the prices must be so high that american citizens must choose amongst food, healthcare, housing etc.

I am one american who is beyond fed up with the sewer spewing scum toting traitors who have brought great harm to the country because of their sociopathic greed. When the day calls on their mortality the pigs who are killing america with their self interests will eat the poison fruit from the noxious seeds they've planted or there is no justice.
Posted by l8c6 at 02:28 AM : Apr 03, 2007
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I applaud your story "Under the Influence". I'd love to see more exposure of the lobby efforts in congress. I think we all know that oil companies, tobacco industy, auto industry, and other big companies are all about as corrupt as the "drug cartel" that's buying their own brand of democracy.

Thank you for this opportunity.

Posted by figpreserves at 01:04 AM : Apr 03, 2007
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Let me get this straight:

We the people elect and pay our congressmen. Our taxes, our money is used to pay them. We approve generous compensation packages that allow numerous perquisites, enabling their privileged lives. From what we see, congressional careers are much comprised of lunch meetings, expensive dinners, and multiple rounds of golf - in between frequent and exotic vacations. Members of our congress then proceed to

1) force votes to fix pharmaceutical prices as high as possible, squeezing retired Medicare recipients and rewarding wealthy pharmaceutical executives (who are already overpaid with funds pilfered from their clueless shareholders).

After doing this, they

2) cross over to the private sector to collect $2,000,000/yr. salaries.

Is this not collusion? At least a conflict of interests? Where is the DOJ, the FTC and Sherman when you need them. Someone with a JD out there, help us understand - please.

It is no wonder that the world is losing respect for the US; we show none for ourselves by electing officials who abuse our system through such overt corruption. I cannot adequately express my outrage and disgust. Kudos to Steve Kroft for summoning the super-human self-control he surely required to restrain himself from slapping the arrogant smirk off the smug face of Billy Tauzin.

Posted by patony3 at 12:34 AM : Apr 03, 2007
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I was disappointed in the "Under the Influence" piece this past Sunday. It seems like there were some really nasty political moves that allowed this bill to pass, which is shameful. However, not one person was asked why this bill might actually be good for our healthcare system. No doubt, our system has many faults -- one of which is drugs being too costly for many seniors. However, the existence of the bill raised a much more important question than how it was passed, which is the question of how prices should be set in our system.

Our healthcare system provides a monetary incentive for pharmaceuticals to find more cures that extend lives. Because of this, our capital markets system gives these companies money to invest in research for new drugs and treatments. If the pharmaceutical companies are not allowed to make profits -- significant profits -- investors will rationally take their money to other, more profitable endeavors. Would we be better off with lower costs and less money for research and innovation? There should be checks/balances to make sure prices are not inflated, but having the government regulate the prices to limit margin would stifle innovation. This balance of price and innovation will be fundamental to fixing our broken system.

I was just disappointed that 60 decided to run a political finger pointing and missed, or intentionally buried, what could have been a thorough and interesting debate on pharmaceuticals role in our healthcare system.
Posted by NYCViewer at 10:56 PM : Apr 02, 2007
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After seeing this, I wondered around trying to figure out the difference between a lobbyist and someone who bribes someone. About the only thing I could figure out is that lobbying is legal and bribing an official is not.
Being a member of the donut hole club, I'm very interested in drug costs. I was also wondering why George Bush, a president I've been trying very hard to support, would veto a bill allowing medicare to bargain over drug prices the same as the VA?
Posted by blacksand1 at 10:52 PM : Apr 02, 2007
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Ira Rosen, you make me proud of the news business.
Bill O'Neil
Greensboro, NC
Posted by bon3407 at 10:46 PM : Apr 02, 2007
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A great story that deserves widespread viewing. One of the best stories I've ever seen on '60 minutes.'
Congrats to ira rosen. cbs needs more of this kind of reporting.
Thanks.
bill o'neil
greensboro, nc
Posted by bon3407 at 10:21 PM : Apr 02, 2007
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"Capitalism is an ECONOMIC system. Capitalism IS NOT a system of Governance. Corporate personhood, unchecked corporate power and social darwinism will eventually bring the United States of America to its knees."--LZSFCA

I wonder how many people hear and understand what you are saying? I'd like to add or clarify, it will bring the United States as we've known it to ruins, replace it with an elite ruling class either in the form of a regime directed by a narrow ideology or unlikely a royal family though the Saudi royal family does own quite a piece of the United States.

As far as bringing anything to its knees, I can see it bringing the people to a state of serfdom.

By the way, the right wing attacks on socialism. Germany is a country that has operated under a pretty large social net. The streets in the major cities are safe, clean, extremely liveable with excellent infrastructures. Now our right wingers like the latin american style of rich behind walls coming out in bullet proof cars to catch a jet to anywhere exotica while the masses live in poverty. That's the sociopathy of the right wing. The greatest good for absolute smallest number at the expense of the human race. Right wingers hate the word social. Sociopaths do hate the word social, ya see, that's part and parcel what defines an anti-social personality disorder.
Posted by l8c6 at 09:37 PM : Apr 02, 2007
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Leslie V Norwalk - Acting CMMS chair, may you commit to not being in the payrolls of any pharmaceutical lobbying or manufacturing company?
BTW, what happened to your former boss, "i have no plans of resigning my post" McLelan? Is he lobbying for the industry now too?
Posted by cbsben1 at 09:33 PM : Apr 02, 2007
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Former Congressman Billy Tauzin was all smiles during his interview. I felt that Steve Kroft was way to easy on him. This guy (Tauzin) and the other Congressman should be taking out and strung up on the nearest tree. How were they representing us? They should at the least be prosecuted for the crooks that they are!
Posted by brianbaker8 at 09:30 PM : Apr 02, 2007
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